Let us not forget that King Hussein just before dying told Prince Abdallah that he was to succeed him PROVIDED that Prince Hamza would become heir to the throne and King Abdallah reneged later on that undertaking and removed Hamza from the succession .
Desert caravan thieves one way or another chosen by their colonial masters to manage camps gas stations and torture chambers while living in a whore house / Harems . Arab jahel Wahhabi cult are the ruling elite are predators in the sand for over hundred years while the masses running around like their masters in long dresses and sandals existing in 15th century. ☮️
This is an excellent article and very informative. People like me (I’m Scottish) have a reasonable understanding of global geopolitics, but little to no understanding of how influential tribes are across the ME and West -South Central Asia. Thank you for educating us.
Kindly educate me in this? So what’s exactly did king hussein of Jordan attain! Other than Bieng a better lackey of the Anglo - Zionists , better at it than his son Abdallah! Or better than his would be crown prince Hamza! Arabs have a proverb that goes: in hell there is no jar of cold water!!
First of all, thank you for your question😊 I always encouraged dialogue.
Second, he carried out his most important duty: Maintain the covenant that had defined not just the hashemite kingdom but an Arab society for more than a thousand years.
Mitra, I suggest you overestimate the power of the Jordanian tribes. The nation of Jordan has always been an international geopolitical pawn and even more so today. There is a lot of support to keep Jordan stabilized and any tribal uprising will be severely punished. Money talks and tribal BS walks. Stability trumps old tribal infighting. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/hamzah-affair-context-and-implications-jordans-royal-crisis
I believe that was once the accepted viewpoint, and very much a Western view, but so much has changed. And most of us in the West (including me) do not fully understand the role of tribes across the ME and West Asia. I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Jordan will cease to exist, only reform to align with the ‘new’ Middle East that is emerging. If it doesn’t, Israel will eventually subsume part of Jordan too. Already both Israel and the USA are actively working to strip Jordan of Al-Aqsa custodianship. That would break the Jordan-Israel Peace Treaty and could sever diplomatic ties between the two states. It would also create further tension in the region. I’d expect many of existing Monarchies across much of the ME to be replaced in course by new successors with different aspirations less tied to the West. This new ME emerging is not going to be one with Israel (and the West) at its centre. US influence and trust is now much diminished with its allies. I may be completely wrong, but I tend to think of it as western aligned ME nations and also former British protectorates created by colonialism, have grown up and grown a spine and are taking back control from the USA and the wider west. It won’t happen overnight, but the actions of Israel and the USA have created the conditions to enable this. It has also accelerated the shift in power and influence from the USA to the Global South. And even got Europe rethinking its relationship with the USA. We are at the start of a period of geopolitical change, globally, and the ME is just part of that puzzle.
You make good points about the shift from Western influence to an alignment with the Global South, particularly China. But, to do so a focus on nationalism, not tribalism, is essential.
Jordan needs to avoid the fate of Syria and its destructive civil war. International investors want a stable, unified government as a partner, not tribal chaos. I am not aware of any tribal coalition able to topple the current regime. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” The regime that can enforce order and avoid chaos will win the day. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202608/1368721.shtml
King Abdullah was here visiting Australia last week. Trying to retain support? Much to the disgust of a large proportion of the population the Australian Parliament does what USrael tells it to do.
Diplomatic mission here since 1975. Australians grow up knowing, maybe not in detail, our family members who were part of the Australian Light Horse who fought with the Hashemite Arabs against the Ottomans crossing the Jordan River from Jerusalem in WWI. So many placenames are familiar names we've grown up from grandfather's stories of campaigns in Sinai and Palestine and Mesopotamia. Postcards of deserts and date palms, souvenirs bought from souks from a far away land are now family heirlooms.
Great article. 👍🏼 it’s a tragedy that over the last 40 years ALL the gulf states, as well as Egypt and those to the west have abdicated their responsibilities towards the Palestinians in favor of western money. Only Iran has leaned in to resist.
Let me make it simpler! In my own silly way! The whole war and conflagration among the chosen folk( Jews + Muslims + xtians)in the promised lands stems from one problem! What the Arabs term as nifaq! Hypocrisy /betrayal! The tribes have know since time memorial the rights and proprietary claims of various parties ! But decided to ignore and pay to play!changing the top won’t change any thing absolutely! The battle In the Middle East as I said earlier is a moral one ! Ethics vs ethnics! We are doing ourselves a disservice by highlighting the ethnic angle! That’s not helping any thing ! The tribal cliques are as much to blame as their leaders/kings /emirs /emperors! It’s extremely superficial to look at the tribal angle and rejoice that things are changing! Even their so called collaboration with Iran is just that! Transactional!
Honestly unless the tribes and their Chieftains go back to basics of honor , justice and integrity! They will continue to be mercenaries for hire ( consent to be governed after paying, pay to play) the problem will just carry over wether Hamza or whomever is in power! It begins at the most fundamental level! And is a moral question above all!
Thanks for the article. If I can recall It's also worth knowing that Hamzah apologised to the king in 2022 and gave up his title. That doesn't fit the picture of an active rallying figure.
Just because he was forced to give up his throne, it does not mean that he cannot be king. Especially when the current king is no longer wanted. Also, the fact that they were unable to eliminate him, says about the power of prince hamza within the tribes
I just checked a little about the Hashemite Dynasty. They claim to trace their roots to Imam al-Hasan bin Ali bin Abu Talib (as). In this way, they trace their roots to a common ancestors with Husain Badreddine al-Houthi, the founder of AnsarAllah, who also trace their roots to Imam al-Hasan bin Ali (as).
Let us not forget that King Hussein just before dying told Prince Abdallah that he was to succeed him PROVIDED that Prince Hamza would become heir to the throne and King Abdallah reneged later on that undertaking and removed Hamza from the succession .
Exactly and thank you for your response😊
Desert caravan thieves one way or another chosen by their colonial masters to manage camps gas stations and torture chambers while living in a whore house / Harems . Arab jahel Wahhabi cult are the ruling elite are predators in the sand for over hundred years while the masses running around like their masters in long dresses and sandals existing in 15th century. ☮️
This is an excellent article and very informative. People like me (I’m Scottish) have a reasonable understanding of global geopolitics, but little to no understanding of how influential tribes are across the ME and West -South Central Asia. Thank you for educating us.
Thank you, linda for your comments as well as subscribing😊
Kindly educate me in this? So what’s exactly did king hussein of Jordan attain! Other than Bieng a better lackey of the Anglo - Zionists , better at it than his son Abdallah! Or better than his would be crown prince Hamza! Arabs have a proverb that goes: in hell there is no jar of cold water!!
First of all, thank you for your question😊 I always encouraged dialogue.
Second, he carried out his most important duty: Maintain the covenant that had defined not just the hashemite kingdom but an Arab society for more than a thousand years.
Third, thank you for subscribing
Mitra, I suggest you overestimate the power of the Jordanian tribes. The nation of Jordan has always been an international geopolitical pawn and even more so today. There is a lot of support to keep Jordan stabilized and any tribal uprising will be severely punished. Money talks and tribal BS walks. Stability trumps old tribal infighting. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/hamzah-affair-context-and-implications-jordans-royal-crisis
First of all, john, thank you so much for your comment. I always support a dialogue. Because one can always learn from other opinions.
That being said, I do not think I am wrong. But I guess time will show the powers of the tribes
I believe that was once the accepted viewpoint, and very much a Western view, but so much has changed. And most of us in the West (including me) do not fully understand the role of tribes across the ME and West Asia. I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Jordan will cease to exist, only reform to align with the ‘new’ Middle East that is emerging. If it doesn’t, Israel will eventually subsume part of Jordan too. Already both Israel and the USA are actively working to strip Jordan of Al-Aqsa custodianship. That would break the Jordan-Israel Peace Treaty and could sever diplomatic ties between the two states. It would also create further tension in the region. I’d expect many of existing Monarchies across much of the ME to be replaced in course by new successors with different aspirations less tied to the West. This new ME emerging is not going to be one with Israel (and the West) at its centre. US influence and trust is now much diminished with its allies. I may be completely wrong, but I tend to think of it as western aligned ME nations and also former British protectorates created by colonialism, have grown up and grown a spine and are taking back control from the USA and the wider west. It won’t happen overnight, but the actions of Israel and the USA have created the conditions to enable this. It has also accelerated the shift in power and influence from the USA to the Global South. And even got Europe rethinking its relationship with the USA. We are at the start of a period of geopolitical change, globally, and the ME is just part of that puzzle.
You make good points about the shift from Western influence to an alignment with the Global South, particularly China. But, to do so a focus on nationalism, not tribalism, is essential.
Jordan needs to avoid the fate of Syria and its destructive civil war. International investors want a stable, unified government as a partner, not tribal chaos. I am not aware of any tribal coalition able to topple the current regime. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” The regime that can enforce order and avoid chaos will win the day. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202608/1368721.shtml
King Abdullah was here visiting Australia last week. Trying to retain support? Much to the disgust of a large proportion of the population the Australian Parliament does what USrael tells it to do.
And this is exactly why he has lost to public. The worst thing a leader in this region could be is popular in the west but unpopular at home
Diplomatic mission here since 1975. Australians grow up knowing, maybe not in detail, our family members who were part of the Australian Light Horse who fought with the Hashemite Arabs against the Ottomans crossing the Jordan River from Jerusalem in WWI. So many placenames are familiar names we've grown up from grandfather's stories of campaigns in Sinai and Palestine and Mesopotamia. Postcards of deserts and date palms, souvenirs bought from souks from a far away land are now family heirlooms.
Very informative . Thank you for sharing.
Great article. 👍🏼 it’s a tragedy that over the last 40 years ALL the gulf states, as well as Egypt and those to the west have abdicated their responsibilities towards the Palestinians in favor of western money. Only Iran has leaned in to resist.
Exactly. Well said!
Let me make it simpler! In my own silly way! The whole war and conflagration among the chosen folk( Jews + Muslims + xtians)in the promised lands stems from one problem! What the Arabs term as nifaq! Hypocrisy /betrayal! The tribes have know since time memorial the rights and proprietary claims of various parties ! But decided to ignore and pay to play!changing the top won’t change any thing absolutely! The battle In the Middle East as I said earlier is a moral one ! Ethics vs ethnics! We are doing ourselves a disservice by highlighting the ethnic angle! That’s not helping any thing ! The tribal cliques are as much to blame as their leaders/kings /emirs /emperors! It’s extremely superficial to look at the tribal angle and rejoice that things are changing! Even their so called collaboration with Iran is just that! Transactional!
Honestly unless the tribes and their Chieftains go back to basics of honor , justice and integrity! They will continue to be mercenaries for hire ( consent to be governed after paying, pay to play) the problem will just carry over wether Hamza or whomever is in power! It begins at the most fundamental level! And is a moral question above all!
If the tribes get their desired leaders in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, what will change with the West?
Thanks for the article. If I can recall It's also worth knowing that Hamzah apologised to the king in 2022 and gave up his title. That doesn't fit the picture of an active rallying figure.
Just because he was forced to give up his throne, it does not mean that he cannot be king. Especially when the current king is no longer wanted. Also, the fact that they were unable to eliminate him, says about the power of prince hamza within the tribes
Fingers crossed
I just checked a little about the Hashemite Dynasty. They claim to trace their roots to Imam al-Hasan bin Ali bin Abu Talib (as). In this way, they trace their roots to a common ancestors with Husain Badreddine al-Houthi, the founder of AnsarAllah, who also trace their roots to Imam al-Hasan bin Ali (as).
Did I comment on inheritance?
Shit happens when you're at home more in London than in Amman.