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Hopefully this is another crack in the carefully crafted Pro Israel power structure in the Middle East. Part of a slave revolt that is spreading beyond the ability of the elite to control. I have always been uncomfortable with the muddled image that we are presented where the supposedly Muslim country of Saudi Arabia has this close alliance with anti-Muslim Israel and it’s lapdog the USA.
Gentlemen! The Middle East is a genuinely Semitic world that includes the ancient tribes of Israel, Palestine, Saudis, and Iraqis. That is an ancient and complex political and religious world. This latest battle between Iran and the Sunni half of the Muslim world is mixed in with the long unresolved relationship between Muslim and Jew.
And we in the Christian West have not helped to resolve this complex political/military series of actions and reactions. I do agree with this essay’s analysis because it’s the first I’ve read that acknowledges the incredibly historic and complex political and religious philosophy involved in this most recent eruption in the Holy Land, which includes all of the lands and peoples living in that ancient part of our world.
As we in the US face our own internal religious wars over religious belief and control, we should all be more understanding of the complex nature of human belief and cultural identity.
Let’s see. Maybe the fact that an Iranian proxy Hezbollah has ruled Lebanon for the last 20+ years, propped up Assad in Syria for years, sponsors the Houthis etc. What do you call that?
I personally believe that throughout history, more people have died, and are still dying in the name of religion, than any other reason... except possibly greed.
(I am looking at you America and Israel as the biggest perpetrators)
Some people say religion is for the weak minded people.
Other people say that religion is just a means to control the weak minded.
Both views assume that people buying into religious fantasies and magical doings that appear miraculous are possibly lacking in the mental cognition area.
I leave it for you all to draw your own conclusions.
Maybe, but I’m still pretty far from claiming to know the root cause and I guess Satanic worship qualifies as a religion. I’m leaning towards the root cause coming from the Khazarian Empire many centuries ago.
Khazaria was a huge empire in Eastern Europe that for some reason has been neglected in the world history that we were made to memorize. It included a big hunk of what we now call Russia and the country of Ukraine.
The zionist have built a new modern capital city in Kazakhstan named Astana. Strangely we never hear about this country or the city in any of our controlled media. I never hear about pressure from the EU urging Kazakhstan to join the globalist union. I think the current Ukrainian/Russian war has a lot to do with the long past histories of these cultures.
Anti Muslim Israel? No, backwards. Muslims sit on Supeeme Court, in Parliament, act as surgeons , police. They stitch up the Jews, Muslims and others your Hamas friends try to blow up in suicide bombings. However Jews have been expelled from many Muslim countries due to Israel existing. How about some logic?
Muslims sit on what Supreme Court and what parliament? I would bet that there is not a jew in Israel that has a muslim for a doctor.
Bibi funneled $25 million dollars/ month to Hamas through Qatar, and we know that because Qatar said that they would only do that if Bibi signed the request, which he did. Bibi has been funding Hamas in order to stage his false flag attack which is his excise for the ongoing genocide.
To those who are unaware of this I would suggest you watch the Bibi Files. It’s a documentary by a jewish journalist about an Israeli Police investigation of corruption by Bibi and his wife.
Where do you live ? You are so ignorant , it is hard to describe. I am Jew and I have been treated not a long time ago by Muslims doctors and at least half the department taking care of me were Muslims , they were wonderful like the all dpt itself . I am devastated by your ignorance but it seems that a lot of assholes like you that have never been here before strongly believe they know this country , certainly not on the bright side of it as it is much less attractive to sell to the media and social networks.
Keep enlightening yourself with ignorance, you will certainly encounter your own stupidity when you will reach your moment of grace … hopefully for you before ☺️
I never said the Muslims weren’t nice and it doesn’t surprise me a bit. Speaking of ignorance, you need to learn how to read.
I’m sorry but I’m influenced by videos of prominent zionist jews saying that jews are special and that everyone else are no better than animals. I watch the Israeli defense minister brutalizing prisoners and your soldiers making videos of them blowing up Palestinian houses as they all laugh.
Maybe Israel needs to stop slaughtering defenseless people and bulldozing their properties.
You would bet that not a Jew has a Muslim doctor? Maybe you have read too much fiction about apartheid. Go into any ER in Israel if you can stand being around Jews for more than five minutes. Many trauma surgeons are Arabs, as are the nurses, physical therapists, etc. Don't forget Muslims get targeted in terrorist attacks too because THERE IS NO APARTHEID!!! Even the terrorists get the benefit of treatment in Israelis hospitals, on the SAME FLOORS AND UNITS as the terror victims with Muslim Arab and Jewish staff .
Yes Bibi did some stupid things he thought he was buying off Hamas to prevent terror. He was obviously wrong and will pay for it in the next democratic election in two months. Stupid yes, false flag no .
There was no false flag attack. Hamas terrorists wore Go Pros and filmed themselves doing unspeakable things to Israelis, soldiers, civilain men women and children, and babies, many of whom were peaceniks and who included Muslim, Arabs, Druse, Thais, American and British civilians, etc.. Now, the realists have taken over. The genocide attempt was against Jews.
Knesset is the Israeli name for its Parliament. Use the terms interchangeably. There is no question mark. There are Arab parties, and they number about ten per cent, and they have sat in governments as recently as this decade. In past years, they sat within Labor and Likud party delegations, although not recently.
October 7 denial is on par with Holocaust denial, in my opinion. It was the worst pogrom since the Holocaust. "Jewish journalist" does not mean crap. Jewish journalists can be as big of idiots as anyone else and often are. Don't talk to me about "as a Jew" reporters. Talk about what happened. Are you saying hundreds of Jews weren't held hostage and many of those murdered in captivity?
Last lets talk about what happened to Israelis AFTER 10-7. Thousands of Israelis gave their lives and tens of thousands their health suffering life changing injuries not even counting the PTSD. 80-90,000 in the North were barred from their homes for over a year due to Hizbolla. All of Israel lived in bomb shelters for months due to Iranian missiles, Houthi missiles, etc. Its not Israel's faults that Hamas BARRED its own Gaza residents from their prodigious tunnel system that they built with international aid. Israelis make each home have a bomb shelter, Hamas makes tunnels for VIP ie Hamas Party member only use. Gazans HAD to share their homes,schools and hospitals with terrorists and thus many died when Israel defended itself. Why is none of this talked about?
Bibi corruption is an issue, but its truth is not determined yet. He accepted cigars, he tried to motivate reporting by journalists that he thought was accurate, etc. He has not been convicted by anyone except the press. Hold your effin horses on that one.
The war did not even start for three weeks after October 7, because Israel was not ready and did not expect it. They should have expected it, but f-d up. Jews got killed and the world blames the Jews. What's new?
I am sure the drone intercepted near Mecca is a false flag. Probably, they want to send a message that these hypocrite monarchs are protectors of Mecca while The Axis of Resistence is destroyer.
It's an attempt by m b s to unify the islamic world, but it's too late for that. Not just because of mbs's own reputation, but because of the tribes who have disputed the claim
Unify the Islamic World!? That's total nonsense. How do you unify autocrats and oligarchs around principles or a religion that only the weak and powerless believe. There have been many opportunities to attempt unity before and not one succeeded. What do you truly believe will unite even the majority Sunnis, let alone the Sunnis and Shi'as? Support your claim with reason.
nonsense. Like his attempt to "unite" the Islamic world by trying to isolate Qatar? MBS doesn't give a shit about "the Islamic world" because it's not a single identity , he's a nationalist. so are the people in UAE - so are basically, the general and his pals who rule Egypt - they have learned the lesson that HARD WAY
Good riddance. His vanity projects were to be tied to a Gaza luxury resort. He is a pillar of 4 psychopaths (Trump, Putin, Netanyahu) trying to standardize and own the world with Crypto and surveillance with the aid of the Epstein Tech Bros. Kait Justice on Substack lays it out with evidence and receipts.
Major reputed American commentators, from the academia as well as the military very openly admire how Putin has brought back Russia from the brink (of vassalship of America) and restored the pride and belief in the average Russian.
Don't continue to be brainwashed by your mainstream media!
Putin is not an admirable man. Remember what he did to Navalny? The horrific war crimes he has ordered on Ukraine as part of his efforts to invade and conquer an independent nation that broke away from his vaunted Soviet Union in 1989-1990?
@BJ Zamofa what did Putin do to Ukraine? Ukraine has been killing ethnic Russians as well as Ukrainians in Donbass who did not want to be part of Ukraine. If we look at it objectively these people should have received the right to vote for I dependence, which Kiev did not allow. Crimea was taken by "force" earlier, but the majority there is ethnic Russian as well. One can argue the Russians are correcting a mistake of the past, bringing back Russian land that has always been Russian.
As I recall my history, the Saudi royal family, in uniting the tribes, was also made the “caretaker” of those tribes’ wealth. When oil independence from US and European was declared in the late ‘50s Saudi Arabia became a founding member of OPEC and the tribes endowed the royal family with responsibility for managing THEIR tribal wealth. Through LIV, ridiculous construction projects and an assortment of other cockamamy schemes like crypto and the Board of Peace dreamed up by the tRump family to fleece the tribes and relieve MBS of his fiduciary duties, MBS may have to flee the country to avoid execution!
Very insightful article indeed. My question is - why has west abandoned MBS whom they accepted on of their own? Was the whole security structure of US in middle east so fragile? what will the power structure be post MBS? ( if it happens eventually )
The West hasn’t abandoned MBS. Put simply Trump is somewhat checkmated. The American people don’t support Trump’s Iran war of choice and the Midterms are close at hand. Also American weapons reserves have thinned. Consequently Trump is currently reluctant to escalate beyond the present status quo. We’ll see how Trump responds after the Midterms.
Trump is always primarily concerned with his own and his family’s personal gain. MBS is probably reaching out to Jared Kushner asking him to intercede with Trump. If Jared can’t or won’t do that then it will be interesting to see if Jared can maintain his same investment partner status with Mideast wealthy entities.
The "West" is way too broad a category to determine the why of your question.
Let's start with the nature of the [Anglo-American Oligarchy | Epstein Class | Elites | Mammonist-Talmudic-Cabal | Zionists | Evangelical Christians | Jewish Mob | CIA | Organized Crime: IOW Good's "Tripartite State"]
All of these factions (and factions within factions) complete with one another for power and prestige (which often comes down to money because you can buy those).
The US (a broad cover for all the subgroups listed above) has been pursuing empire since the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock. Empire is the "top of the hill" that their inherent greed always pursues.
The US discovered that it can often obtain its objectives by setting up proxy states. (Aaron Good's excellent video on how the "Banana Man" was able to establish the Banana Republics is an example. A Jewish mobster used criminal force installed a puppet government to then control the land and raise bananas -- a profitable capitalist enterprise.)
Afghanistan was a proxy state used against the USSR.
The NED involvement in Chechnya set up proxy NGOs to encourage friction with Russia.
Same in Georgia. (George Soros reportedly provided the truckloads of roses for the "rose revolution".)
Same in Ukraine. Hopefully everyone understands what the expansion of NATO was all about.
The attempted color revolution in Kyrgyzstan was foiled by the immediate response of the CSTO, but it was a clandestine operation. (Pepe has an article on it.)
The non-existent Uyghur Genocide was China's response to the NED/CIA sponsored ETIM which was spreading terror throughout Xinjiang.
The point is the "US" (and one should understand that this often includes various other nations around the world depending on the "target") has -always- pursued empire. (Even in WWII, FDR was plotting against Japan, but do recall the many factions and factions within factions.)
The Israeli Lobby is intent on establishing a "Greater Israel". They have become very powerful within the US. Only 4% of Americans are Jews but 40% of American Billionaires are Jews. The Israeli lobby (or Zionists) ally with many other factions in the USA to promote “Greater Israel” because it is profitable.
Now, we have several competing conspiracies depending on which faction of the US you believe is ascendent. We've identified the Zionists (Israeli Lobby) which achieved dominance by thwarting GHWB's second term. All that "end of history" BS was propagandized. Who did they "beat"? This is more difficult to identify. GHWB represented the "oil men". Stalin told Elliot Roosevelt that the "Churchill gang" had poisoned his father. The phrase "all wars are bankers wars", points at the Rothschilds. (along with Hillary's plea to know what penance she had to pay.) Others have labeled one of these factions the "Rockefellers". I like to use "Boston Brahmins" who descended from the Pilgrims. Every Billionaire leads his own faction. The mobbed-up Crowne family (General Dynamics) is both part of the Jewish Mob and Zionist.
So...
The Zionist faction persuaded Trump that he could use the US proxy Israel (I reject the tail wags the dog meme) to overthrow the Iranian government so that nation could be returned to imperialist (neo-colonialist) control. Many of the other factions went along with the plot because they could profit (for example oil under control of the 7 sisters again -- although the Venezuelan failure is troubling).
Many of those same factions knew that Iran would close the strait of Hormuz. They are capitalists. A shortage of energy production from the Persian Gulf represents an opportunity. For example, the LNG plant that was being developed in North Alaska which (reportedly) would not have been profitable if Gas continued to flow from the GCC. (NOTE, this is just one of the many, many reasons to allow, if not support, the invasion of Iran. In NO WAY should this be considered the only reason.) These factions supported the invasion because they would profit from its failure. The MIC is another faction that would benefit from the war as they would continue to provide high priced weapons systems that don't work. [aside, the MIC is very good at propagandizing for war anywhere and everywhere. Thus the constant argument about whether or not Ukraine is "winning". Another very long explanation.] Financial capital also wins from a loss. Some report that the Rothschilds supported both sides during WWII because they had the "money", which they created out of thin air.
(Which means I need to tell you all to look for Krainer's 3 part series on the two political-economic systems the world will choose between. The British System or the American System. [Note: the USA has not followed the American System for nearly 100 years. China follows the American System and its economy has grown at more than 5%/year since 1979. Depends on your goal as a financier. Do you create wealth or steal it from labor.])
So the Iran gambit didn't work. The factions of the Oligarchy that bet on it not working will now turn that into attaining power within the American political-economy. They are abandoning MBS, for the same reason they will abandon Ukraine (and the EU) -- it is profitable.
The Zionist influence in the US government (Public State) will be diminished. Perhaps more Congressmen will be persuaded to ally with Thomas Massie and MTG rejecting AIPAC. This is just the beginning of a long slow decline of Zionist influence. It took decades for the Zionists to achieve their position of control of the American government. It will take decades for the other Oligarchic factions to ally with one another to ensure their removal.
For the Average American -- not much is going to change. The Grim Historian has an article about "American Assholes" that covers the history of how Labor "fought back" but that was around 1900. Ever since the Powell Memo was published in 1971, the Oligarchic factions have been allied against labor even as they squabble amongst themselves.
The "West" abandoned MBS because he's no longer useful to them. With oil exports from Arabia halted, there's no money to be made. Some faction of the Oligarchy will move back into Arabia when the "time is right". When that might be, I don't know. Maybe after the coming world wide famine causes Labor to rise against the Oligarchy as a whole and one of their members will recognize, like FDR did when he created the new deal, that the peons have to be thrown a bone or there will be some French Revolution guillotines being constructed.
Your comment that starts "Gentlemen" (thanks) does not show up for me here. On the activity page it is sorely truncated so my response is on your "half a thought".
I very much recognize that the conflicts in West Asia go back centuries.
Mitra seems to always remind us, but that history is way too complex to cover in a short essay.
For expanded hints at the history, Alistair Crook was on both Dialogue Works and Danny Davis in the last 2 days (today is 19 Sep). I believe he covers the point you are making (but which I can't see).
AH! The entire comment is in my email. You went in a very different direction than what I anticipated.
The "Christian West" is owned and operated by the Mammonist-Talmudic-Cabal (my label for the Oligarchy; Elites; Epstein Class; Zionists; whatever). The Cabal is not interested in resolving the conflict in West Asia -- it wants to profit from it.
Neither is the Cabal interested in solving the religious wars in the USA. In fact, the Cabal does its best to fan those flames. George Soros and Adelson work in tandem on apparently opposite sides to steal American Wealth for the benefit of the Cabal.
NOTE: the Cabal is not some organization. It is a framework in which the factions (and factions within factions) compete with one another to steal the wealth created by labor. Sometimes they ally, sometimes they declare war on one another. There is no “membership” in the Cabal. It is just an identity based on the participants greed.
OK, let’s remember that Iran was a key node in China’s Belt+Road Initiative. Also remember that both the Gulf States’ and Iran’s biggest customer is China. Any vacuum left by the West will quickly be filled by China. China already has strong ties to Russia who is the “+1” in OPEC +1.
Turkey is the link pin between the West and Asia. It also has the second largest military in NATO behind the U.S. and controls access to the Black Sea keeping Russia checkmated. The Ottoman Empire controlled the entire Middle East including Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem for over three centuries.
Turkey has a deep history in the region, and China arrives with no colonial or religious baggage. They make a perfect partnership for the development of the region as the West abandons it. How that plays out is anyone’s guess.
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Yemen's a real country with thousands of years of history. Saudi Arabia is a tinpot monarchy established by the British and then incorporated into the US Empire.
I don't see how the monarchy can possibly survive long after the collapse of Israel, which is coming within the next ten years.
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The starting hour is 11 AM, Riyadh time?
Thank you!
First of all, thank you for your interest.
As for the time, it starts at 11 am Eastern Time. So it would 11 AM in New York, 5 PM in France & I believe 6 PM in Saudi Arabia.
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Thank you for your answer, @mitraraheb .
I was unable to join due to agenda conflict. I would have done it mostly for learning and listening in, anyhow.
Maybe next time 🤗
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...dies that means a out 5pm in the UK. Please clarify.
You've raised a very important discussion point Madam Miterahabeb.
What is the future of Arabia, and are the Arabs in control of their destiny or just lackeys of the West !
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An enlightening article, expanding my knowledge of the region. Predominantly known for ordering the killing Jamal Kashoggi,
Thank you so much for your response and subscribing. 😊
I always want to know what people think
Hubris comethbefore a fall!
This fills a huge void in my understanding of why things are unfolding as they are. Thank you.
Hopefully this is another crack in the carefully crafted Pro Israel power structure in the Middle East. Part of a slave revolt that is spreading beyond the ability of the elite to control. I have always been uncomfortable with the muddled image that we are presented where the supposedly Muslim country of Saudi Arabia has this close alliance with anti-Muslim Israel and it’s lapdog the USA.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE
Your false fact that the ME has a carefully crafted Pro Israel structure may be the dumbest thing I have read in years (that is a very high bar).
Your apparent desire for total domination by IRGC, Wahabists and Sharia Law speaks for itself.
Where is your support for the idea that Iran has imperialist ambitions? Are you perhaps a Zionist?
The Zionists (Israeli Lobby) constructed the power structure that determined US policy toward Iran since about 1995. Not the "ME".
Gentlemen! The Middle East is a genuinely Semitic world that includes the ancient tribes of Israel, Palestine, Saudis, and Iraqis. That is an ancient and complex political and religious world. This latest battle between Iran and the Sunni half of the Muslim world is mixed in with the long unresolved relationship between Muslim and Jew.
And we in the Christian West have not helped to resolve this complex political/military series of actions and reactions. I do agree with this essay’s analysis because it’s the first I’ve read that acknowledges the incredibly historic and complex political and religious philosophy involved in this most recent eruption in the Holy Land, which includes all of the lands and peoples living in that ancient part of our world.
As we in the US face our own internal religious wars over religious belief and control, we should all be more understanding of the complex nature of human belief and cultural identity.
Let’s see. Maybe the fact that an Iranian proxy Hezbollah has ruled Lebanon for the last 20+ years, propped up Assad in Syria for years, sponsors the Houthis etc. What do you call that?
A lie
He is, they are readily identifiable. But loud as they are, they are a minority and hopefully they can be destroyed.
You are not worth a discussion.
Yes Wahhabists and the IRGC… natural allies
You’re not worth a discussion.
For a guy who”s profile says nothing about knowing anything, your comment is deeply STUPID,and IGNORANT! And your Substack posts PROVE THAT!
Why is that assholes like you actually believe you know more than anyone else when it’s beyond obvious you know JACK SHIT ABOUT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING?
Don't bother, this is someone who thinks Zionists are behind colloidal silver not being allowed to cure cancer. You're talking to a nutjob
The root cause of the problems is religion. Modernity has challenged a thousand years of hierarchy under an angry god.
Modern civilization requires adherence to the principles of the Enlightenment : humanity and science. Not medieval submission to faith.
I personally believe that throughout history, more people have died, and are still dying in the name of religion, than any other reason... except possibly greed.
(I am looking at you America and Israel as the biggest perpetrators)
Some people say religion is for the weak minded people.
Other people say that religion is just a means to control the weak minded.
Both views assume that people buying into religious fantasies and magical doings that appear miraculous are possibly lacking in the mental cognition area.
I leave it for you all to draw your own conclusions.
I have already drawn mine.
Maybe, but I’m still pretty far from claiming to know the root cause and I guess Satanic worship qualifies as a religion. I’m leaning towards the root cause coming from the Khazarian Empire many centuries ago.
Khazaria was a huge empire in Eastern Europe that for some reason has been neglected in the world history that we were made to memorize. It included a big hunk of what we now call Russia and the country of Ukraine.
The zionist have built a new modern capital city in Kazakhstan named Astana. Strangely we never hear about this country or the city in any of our controlled media. I never hear about pressure from the EU urging Kazakhstan to join the globalist union. I think the current Ukrainian/Russian war has a lot to do with the long past histories of these cultures.
Anti Muslim Israel? No, backwards. Muslims sit on Supeeme Court, in Parliament, act as surgeons , police. They stitch up the Jews, Muslims and others your Hamas friends try to blow up in suicide bombings. However Jews have been expelled from many Muslim countries due to Israel existing. How about some logic?
Muslims sit on what Supreme Court and what parliament? I would bet that there is not a jew in Israel that has a muslim for a doctor.
Bibi funneled $25 million dollars/ month to Hamas through Qatar, and we know that because Qatar said that they would only do that if Bibi signed the request, which he did. Bibi has been funding Hamas in order to stage his false flag attack which is his excise for the ongoing genocide.
To those who are unaware of this I would suggest you watch the Bibi Files. It’s a documentary by a jewish journalist about an Israeli Police investigation of corruption by Bibi and his wife.
Where do you live ? You are so ignorant , it is hard to describe. I am Jew and I have been treated not a long time ago by Muslims doctors and at least half the department taking care of me were Muslims , they were wonderful like the all dpt itself . I am devastated by your ignorance but it seems that a lot of assholes like you that have never been here before strongly believe they know this country , certainly not on the bright side of it as it is much less attractive to sell to the media and social networks.
Keep enlightening yourself with ignorance, you will certainly encounter your own stupidity when you will reach your moment of grace … hopefully for you before ☺️
I never said the Muslims weren’t nice and it doesn’t surprise me a bit. Speaking of ignorance, you need to learn how to read.
I’m sorry but I’m influenced by videos of prominent zionist jews saying that jews are special and that everyone else are no better than animals. I watch the Israeli defense minister brutalizing prisoners and your soldiers making videos of them blowing up Palestinian houses as they all laugh.
Maybe Israel needs to stop slaughtering defenseless people and bulldozing their properties.
You would bet that not a Jew has a Muslim doctor? Maybe you have read too much fiction about apartheid. Go into any ER in Israel if you can stand being around Jews for more than five minutes. Many trauma surgeons are Arabs, as are the nurses, physical therapists, etc. Don't forget Muslims get targeted in terrorist attacks too because THERE IS NO APARTHEID!!! Even the terrorists get the benefit of treatment in Israelis hospitals, on the SAME FLOORS AND UNITS as the terror victims with Muslim Arab and Jewish staff .
Yes Bibi did some stupid things he thought he was buying off Hamas to prevent terror. He was obviously wrong and will pay for it in the next democratic election in two months. Stupid yes, false flag no .
There was no false flag attack. Hamas terrorists wore Go Pros and filmed themselves doing unspeakable things to Israelis, soldiers, civilain men women and children, and babies, many of whom were peaceniks and who included Muslim, Arabs, Druse, Thais, American and British civilians, etc.. Now, the realists have taken over. The genocide attempt was against Jews.
Knesset is the Israeli name for its Parliament. Use the terms interchangeably. There is no question mark. There are Arab parties, and they number about ten per cent, and they have sat in governments as recently as this decade. In past years, they sat within Labor and Likud party delegations, although not recently.
October 7 denial is on par with Holocaust denial, in my opinion. It was the worst pogrom since the Holocaust. "Jewish journalist" does not mean crap. Jewish journalists can be as big of idiots as anyone else and often are. Don't talk to me about "as a Jew" reporters. Talk about what happened. Are you saying hundreds of Jews weren't held hostage and many of those murdered in captivity?
Last lets talk about what happened to Israelis AFTER 10-7. Thousands of Israelis gave their lives and tens of thousands their health suffering life changing injuries not even counting the PTSD. 80-90,000 in the North were barred from their homes for over a year due to Hizbolla. All of Israel lived in bomb shelters for months due to Iranian missiles, Houthi missiles, etc. Its not Israel's faults that Hamas BARRED its own Gaza residents from their prodigious tunnel system that they built with international aid. Israelis make each home have a bomb shelter, Hamas makes tunnels for VIP ie Hamas Party member only use. Gazans HAD to share their homes,schools and hospitals with terrorists and thus many died when Israel defended itself. Why is none of this talked about?
Bibi corruption is an issue, but its truth is not determined yet. He accepted cigars, he tried to motivate reporting by journalists that he thought was accurate, etc. He has not been convicted by anyone except the press. Hold your effin horses on that one.
The war did not even start for three weeks after October 7, because Israel was not ready and did not expect it. They should have expected it, but f-d up. Jews got killed and the world blames the Jews. What's new?
Getting alpha, What are you talking about?
Are you just taking a page from Trump's book and just blatantly and deliberately lying?
Israel is most definitely an 'apartheid state' in exactly the same way South Africa was an 'apartheid state'
If you still insist, then I suggest you look up the definition of 'apartheid'
When I come across stupid people who are lying while arguing with intelligent people, I usually tell them and I quote:
You probably should not engage in a battle of wits with others because it appears that you are unarmed.
I stopped reading at “You”
To anyone who might wonder how open Israel is to freedom I would suggest that you search for the requirements to become an Israeli citizen.
hilarious
I am sure the drone intercepted near Mecca is a false flag. Probably, they want to send a message that these hypocrite monarchs are protectors of Mecca while The Axis of Resistence is destroyer.
It's an attempt by m b s to unify the islamic world, but it's too late for that. Not just because of mbs's own reputation, but because of the tribes who have disputed the claim
Yes, indeed. But the people of Arab have now realised who is their well wisher and who is their enemy. They have been exposed as hypocrites.
Unify the Islamic World!? That's total nonsense. How do you unify autocrats and oligarchs around principles or a religion that only the weak and powerless believe. There have been many opportunities to attempt unity before and not one succeeded. What do you truly believe will unite even the majority Sunnis, let alone the Sunnis and Shi'as? Support your claim with reason.
nonsense. Like his attempt to "unite" the Islamic world by trying to isolate Qatar? MBS doesn't give a shit about "the Islamic world" because it's not a single identity , he's a nationalist. so are the people in UAE - so are basically, the general and his pals who rule Egypt - they have learned the lesson that HARD WAY
A Zionist fals flag operation?
Good riddance. His vanity projects were to be tied to a Gaza luxury resort. He is a pillar of 4 psychopaths (Trump, Putin, Netanyahu) trying to standardize and own the world with Crypto and surveillance with the aid of the Epstein Tech Bros. Kait Justice on Substack lays it out with evidence and receipts.
What's with this unreasoned dislike of Putin ?!
Major reputed American commentators, from the academia as well as the military very openly admire how Putin has brought back Russia from the brink (of vassalship of America) and restored the pride and belief in the average Russian.
Don't continue to be brainwashed by your mainstream media!
Putin is not an admirable man. Remember what he did to Navalny? The horrific war crimes he has ordered on Ukraine as part of his efforts to invade and conquer an independent nation that broke away from his vaunted Soviet Union in 1989-1990?
@BJ Zamofa what did Putin do to Ukraine? Ukraine has been killing ethnic Russians as well as Ukrainians in Donbass who did not want to be part of Ukraine. If we look at it objectively these people should have received the right to vote for I dependence, which Kiev did not allow. Crimea was taken by "force" earlier, but the majority there is ethnic Russian as well. One can argue the Russians are correcting a mistake of the past, bringing back Russian land that has always been Russian.
"Major reputed American commentators, from the academia as well as the military very openly admire how Putin has brought back Russia from the brink"
Names and sources please. And Tucker Carlson doesn't count.
As I recall my history, the Saudi royal family, in uniting the tribes, was also made the “caretaker” of those tribes’ wealth. When oil independence from US and European was declared in the late ‘50s Saudi Arabia became a founding member of OPEC and the tribes endowed the royal family with responsibility for managing THEIR tribal wealth. Through LIV, ridiculous construction projects and an assortment of other cockamamy schemes like crypto and the Board of Peace dreamed up by the tRump family to fleece the tribes and relieve MBS of his fiduciary duties, MBS may have to flee the country to avoid execution!
And so we watch the disintegration of a sovereign power who put their total trust in tumpty…a salutary lesson!!
This started way before Trump. The pact started with Rockefeller and then Firmed up under the Bushes.
Really? Really? Who are you? Trump’s illegitimate son?
No….. men like you are and you can’t understand why.
Are these the same Saudis that helped finance 911?
Very insightful article indeed. My question is - why has west abandoned MBS whom they accepted on of their own? Was the whole security structure of US in middle east so fragile? what will the power structure be post MBS? ( if it happens eventually )
The West hasn’t abandoned MBS. Put simply Trump is somewhat checkmated. The American people don’t support Trump’s Iran war of choice and the Midterms are close at hand. Also American weapons reserves have thinned. Consequently Trump is currently reluctant to escalate beyond the present status quo. We’ll see how Trump responds after the Midterms.
Trump is always primarily concerned with his own and his family’s personal gain. MBS is probably reaching out to Jared Kushner asking him to intercede with Trump. If Jared can’t or won’t do that then it will be interesting to see if Jared can maintain his same investment partner status with Mideast wealthy entities.
thank you. i am very curious regarding this slippery angle …
The "West" is way too broad a category to determine the why of your question.
Let's start with the nature of the [Anglo-American Oligarchy | Epstein Class | Elites | Mammonist-Talmudic-Cabal | Zionists | Evangelical Christians | Jewish Mob | CIA | Organized Crime: IOW Good's "Tripartite State"]
All of these factions (and factions within factions) complete with one another for power and prestige (which often comes down to money because you can buy those).
The US (a broad cover for all the subgroups listed above) has been pursuing empire since the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock. Empire is the "top of the hill" that their inherent greed always pursues.
The US discovered that it can often obtain its objectives by setting up proxy states. (Aaron Good's excellent video on how the "Banana Man" was able to establish the Banana Republics is an example. A Jewish mobster used criminal force installed a puppet government to then control the land and raise bananas -- a profitable capitalist enterprise.)
Afghanistan was a proxy state used against the USSR.
The NED involvement in Chechnya set up proxy NGOs to encourage friction with Russia.
Same in Georgia. (George Soros reportedly provided the truckloads of roses for the "rose revolution".)
Same in Ukraine. Hopefully everyone understands what the expansion of NATO was all about.
The attempted color revolution in Kyrgyzstan was foiled by the immediate response of the CSTO, but it was a clandestine operation. (Pepe has an article on it.)
The non-existent Uyghur Genocide was China's response to the NED/CIA sponsored ETIM which was spreading terror throughout Xinjiang.
The point is the "US" (and one should understand that this often includes various other nations around the world depending on the "target") has -always- pursued empire. (Even in WWII, FDR was plotting against Japan, but do recall the many factions and factions within factions.)
The Israeli Lobby is intent on establishing a "Greater Israel". They have become very powerful within the US. Only 4% of Americans are Jews but 40% of American Billionaires are Jews. The Israeli lobby (or Zionists) ally with many other factions in the USA to promote “Greater Israel” because it is profitable.
Now, we have several competing conspiracies depending on which faction of the US you believe is ascendent. We've identified the Zionists (Israeli Lobby) which achieved dominance by thwarting GHWB's second term. All that "end of history" BS was propagandized. Who did they "beat"? This is more difficult to identify. GHWB represented the "oil men". Stalin told Elliot Roosevelt that the "Churchill gang" had poisoned his father. The phrase "all wars are bankers wars", points at the Rothschilds. (along with Hillary's plea to know what penance she had to pay.) Others have labeled one of these factions the "Rockefellers". I like to use "Boston Brahmins" who descended from the Pilgrims. Every Billionaire leads his own faction. The mobbed-up Crowne family (General Dynamics) is both part of the Jewish Mob and Zionist.
So...
The Zionist faction persuaded Trump that he could use the US proxy Israel (I reject the tail wags the dog meme) to overthrow the Iranian government so that nation could be returned to imperialist (neo-colonialist) control. Many of the other factions went along with the plot because they could profit (for example oil under control of the 7 sisters again -- although the Venezuelan failure is troubling).
Many of those same factions knew that Iran would close the strait of Hormuz. They are capitalists. A shortage of energy production from the Persian Gulf represents an opportunity. For example, the LNG plant that was being developed in North Alaska which (reportedly) would not have been profitable if Gas continued to flow from the GCC. (NOTE, this is just one of the many, many reasons to allow, if not support, the invasion of Iran. In NO WAY should this be considered the only reason.) These factions supported the invasion because they would profit from its failure. The MIC is another faction that would benefit from the war as they would continue to provide high priced weapons systems that don't work. [aside, the MIC is very good at propagandizing for war anywhere and everywhere. Thus the constant argument about whether or not Ukraine is "winning". Another very long explanation.] Financial capital also wins from a loss. Some report that the Rothschilds supported both sides during WWII because they had the "money", which they created out of thin air.
(Which means I need to tell you all to look for Krainer's 3 part series on the two political-economic systems the world will choose between. The British System or the American System. [Note: the USA has not followed the American System for nearly 100 years. China follows the American System and its economy has grown at more than 5%/year since 1979. Depends on your goal as a financier. Do you create wealth or steal it from labor.])
So the Iran gambit didn't work. The factions of the Oligarchy that bet on it not working will now turn that into attaining power within the American political-economy. They are abandoning MBS, for the same reason they will abandon Ukraine (and the EU) -- it is profitable.
The Zionist influence in the US government (Public State) will be diminished. Perhaps more Congressmen will be persuaded to ally with Thomas Massie and MTG rejecting AIPAC. This is just the beginning of a long slow decline of Zionist influence. It took decades for the Zionists to achieve their position of control of the American government. It will take decades for the other Oligarchic factions to ally with one another to ensure their removal.
For the Average American -- not much is going to change. The Grim Historian has an article about "American Assholes" that covers the history of how Labor "fought back" but that was around 1900. Ever since the Powell Memo was published in 1971, the Oligarchic factions have been allied against labor even as they squabble amongst themselves.
The "West" abandoned MBS because he's no longer useful to them. With oil exports from Arabia halted, there's no money to be made. Some faction of the Oligarchy will move back into Arabia when the "time is right". When that might be, I don't know. Maybe after the coming world wide famine causes Labor to rise against the Oligarchy as a whole and one of their members will recognize, like FDR did when he created the new deal, that the peons have to be thrown a bone or there will be some French Revolution guillotines being constructed.
Have you read “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom”?
Your comment that starts "Gentlemen" (thanks) does not show up for me here. On the activity page it is sorely truncated so my response is on your "half a thought".
I very much recognize that the conflicts in West Asia go back centuries.
Mitra seems to always remind us, but that history is way too complex to cover in a short essay.
For expanded hints at the history, Alistair Crook was on both Dialogue Works and Danny Davis in the last 2 days (today is 19 Sep). I believe he covers the point you are making (but which I can't see).
AH! The entire comment is in my email. You went in a very different direction than what I anticipated.
The "Christian West" is owned and operated by the Mammonist-Talmudic-Cabal (my label for the Oligarchy; Elites; Epstein Class; Zionists; whatever). The Cabal is not interested in resolving the conflict in West Asia -- it wants to profit from it.
Neither is the Cabal interested in solving the religious wars in the USA. In fact, the Cabal does its best to fan those flames. George Soros and Adelson work in tandem on apparently opposite sides to steal American Wealth for the benefit of the Cabal.
NOTE: the Cabal is not some organization. It is a framework in which the factions (and factions within factions) compete with one another to steal the wealth created by labor. Sometimes they ally, sometimes they declare war on one another. There is no “membership” in the Cabal. It is just an identity based on the participants greed.
Dima's show: excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8K4XwwotFs&
Note Nema's show is on substack, but it is a paid episode. Free on YouTube but maybe with ads.
OK, let’s remember that Iran was a key node in China’s Belt+Road Initiative. Also remember that both the Gulf States’ and Iran’s biggest customer is China. Any vacuum left by the West will quickly be filled by China. China already has strong ties to Russia who is the “+1” in OPEC +1.
Turkey is the link pin between the West and Asia. It also has the second largest military in NATO behind the U.S. and controls access to the Black Sea keeping Russia checkmated. The Ottoman Empire controlled the entire Middle East including Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem for over three centuries.
Turkey has a deep history in the region, and China arrives with no colonial or religious baggage. They make a perfect partnership for the development of the region as the West abandons it. How that plays out is anyone’s guess.
Thank you for this analysis.
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MBs now in bed with Israel !
Izzies will murder him if he tries to break away
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Yemen's a real country with thousands of years of history. Saudi Arabia is a tinpot monarchy established by the British and then incorporated into the US Empire.
I don't see how the monarchy can possibly survive long after the collapse of Israel, which is coming within the next ten years.
Your definition of a "real" country requires some clarity. Currently, Yemen is a failed country in the midst of a tribal civil war and widespread famine. It certainly is not a Middle East success story. https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/yemen-worlds-newest-failed-state/
Hey MBS get your $2 billion back from the Trump gangsters and pay by your bills.
Oh, where will Kushner get his billions?
Qatar probably.